"Yes and no. Even I couldn't describe what Narayana truly is." He answered Robin's questions and closed his eyes, thinking for a moment. "Think of it like trying to explain a cockroach the thought process of a human being. The cockroach lacks the capability to comprehend such a thing. It lacks the biological advances of humans, their awareness, senses, faculties, intelligence and knowledge. Compared to Narayana, we are the cockroaches."

With that said, he turned to Minato. "I was the first avatar to come into existence. A prototype if you will, that is the conclusion I have reached. This is why I can see through your eyes and that of the other avatars." And then he nodded as Jade confirmed there were ten avatars. "You are nearly correct. The cycle was restarted by Garland, not Narayana. It's always him."

Then finally he turned to Kidd. "There are multiple instances of each worlds. The previous Heroes came from different instances of your world. This means your worlds are safe. For now. If you were to die in a definitive manner… Your world would die along with you. And when your crystal turns blue—" He looked down and shook his head. "Some things I cannot tell you."